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Post by Matsudayo on Jan 13, 2006 18:58:53 GMT -5
Hey guys. While in Japan I found this recently published hide memorial DVD. It had footage on it from the past 5 years of hide memorial plus an inerview with hide's band Spread Beaver. I never knew this but it turns out hide was in the middle of a tour when he died. When asked what they were going to do, The representative of S.B., INA said they'd continue the tour as planned. Then the DVD shows the performance of Spread beaver sans hide. For some songs they had this huge screen playing parts of thier music videos where hide was singing and in other parts the members of S.B. took turns singing the song. It was a really interesting spectical and I think they were in good spirits despite the tragic death of their LV.
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Post by Mellie on Jan 29, 2006 12:20:27 GMT -5
Wow. I didn't know they were in the middle of a tour either. I do know that they did a promotional preformance and interview (hide did the interveiw that is) just hours before he died but I didn't know about the tour, interesting.
By the way, I think this section was a really good idea.
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Post by switchblade cinema™ on Jan 29, 2006 18:40:51 GMT -5
Wow. I can imagine that the pressure of the tour was getting to him, eh? It's pretty good of Spread Beaver to continue on like that...
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Post by Kagayuzen on Jan 29, 2006 23:39:27 GMT -5
Wow, that I didn't know . That's really tragic....but alas, they still continued on as if he were still there and sort of did a mini-tribute to him as well.
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Post by Mellie on Jan 30, 2006 0:31:13 GMT -5
I don't know how you guys feel about discussing his death so if I'm out of line here, just let me know but I really think it was accidental. I don't think he meant it and if he did, I think the alcohol must have taken over and it wasn't something he planned. I have my own theory (just like everone else does) about it but obviously, I can't say for sure.
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Post by Odrah on Jan 30, 2006 9:36:45 GMT -5
Suicide is often something that can't be explained and if it's possible to pass it off as an accident you want to. You want to say that the person had the will to live.
Recently a family friend of ours had a son who committed suicide in the parking lot of our church. Why? No one has any idea. His sisters (who he was close to) and his friends said they'd never seen him upset or depressed or worried. He was always just a happy go lucky kid. And he shot himself.
NO ONE KNOWS why. People keep their demons inside of themselves, and it eats away at them. hide' s death very well could have been an accident, but on the same note it could have been very much intentional. We don't know, and we probably never will. We can only speculate and hope that it was all just one big mistake. But... maybe he saw some tragedy in his life that no one else could see and didn't know how to handle it.
If he was drunk too, that might have had something to do with it. I wonder too.... If he planned it, and it was on purpose... then he probably knew what he was going to do during the interview. Would he have acted differently in the interview?
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Post by Mellie on Jan 30, 2006 10:16:22 GMT -5
In the interview he seemed as normal as ever. They also preformed some songs that day that I have on DVD.
It's my understanding that they were out celebrating the tour or something and he didn't get home until 5AM-6AM and he'd been drinking all night. The girl at his apartment found him at around 7AM and he died at the hospital a short time later.
You're right, all anyone can do is speculate. Not that it matters, what's done is done.
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Post by Odrah on Jan 30, 2006 10:24:08 GMT -5
Ever heard that poem about the young athlete who reached the very top? He was the top athlete in his village and he beat the record time for a race and very shortly after that he died. And even though everyone was mourning, they were happy too because he would never live to see his record beaten. He would never live to be a "has been". Dying young meant that the athlete would be FOREVER the best, forever young in the eyes of those that remembered him.
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In theory it could have been a similar reason, inhanced by being intoxicated.
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Post by cesh on Jan 30, 2006 12:53:36 GMT -5
Also, it could have been an impulse thing too, enhanced by the fact that he was drunk. Like, he could have randomly felt super depressed and wanted to die and not have the ability to think logically and stop himself.
Kind of like what it's like to have AD/HD.
Just a thought. . . . It just occurred to me, don't kick me if it doesn't make any sense/is ignorant. *shrugs*
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Post by Mellie on Jan 30, 2006 14:33:49 GMT -5
I actually think it was simular to how Michael Hutchence of INXS died. There is information about it here. www.silentvictims.org/Waring: This article is of an adult nature. EDIT: This is also my theory because the members of X so emphatically deny that he purposely killed himself but they can't offer any real explanation as to why. I would assume this isn't something they would want to publically talk about.
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Post by Odrah on Jan 30, 2006 14:43:14 GMT -5
I've never heard of that before. You're right, it's possible.
But again... as was mentioned by all (at least once) before... it's just theory. No one really knows.
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Post by Mellie on Jan 30, 2006 14:47:02 GMT -5
I've never heard of that before. You're right, it's possible. But again... as was mentioned by all (at least once) before... it's just theory. No one really knows. Exactly.
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Post by Kagayuzen on Jan 30, 2006 18:06:47 GMT -5
Talk of death depresses me T_T but yeah, I have heard almost every theory known to Jrock as to why Hide died....even the whole "autoerotic asphyxiation" theory. Personally with me....I feel that there was some kind of fuel to the fire, so to speak. I'm not sure how I'm came to this theory, but I agree with Ocha that there are people who quell the demons inside them and eventually, they lose their inner sanity and make either a tragic turn for the worse, or end it by death's release. It could have been an accident due to his drunken state, because when a person is inebriated the window of sound judgement gets smaller and smaller. In conclusion, I accept both theories of intentional and accidental suicide when it comes to hide. That and I look into psychological depth too much ;; I remember I wrote a fic about it (dear god, in my earlier years of being a n00b Jrock fangirl *curses those years*) and had what I wrote here explained in a fictious manner (I prefer to say "open-ended" because it could be true or not). *sigh* No wonder I wanted to be a psych major >.> Feel free to ignore this mental vomit.
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Post by Percival on Jan 30, 2006 20:56:06 GMT -5
... He was always just a happy go lucky kid... That's a pretty good sign that there's something wrong, but that's just my opinion. In any case, it's pretty obvious that there's a lot of theories out there, but for some reason, I never really thought about any of them or wondered to myself why it happened. He's dead, period. He sure lived a good life though.
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Post by cesh on Jan 31, 2006 13:22:01 GMT -5
... He was always just a happy go lucky kid... That's a pretty good sign that there's something wrong, but that's just my opinion. I think so too. I know plenty of super cheerful-acting people who suffer from lots of mental turmoil and depression and cut themselves or injure themselves in other ways . . . And I'm sure there are plenty more who don't show it at all.
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